General / Off-Topic The safest place

Yep.

In the same way it would also be "easy to eradicate" other infectious diseases in theory.
Like isolating HIV positives away from society, and only allowing congress within that group.

"There is no difference between theory and practice.... In theory." - Yogi Berra

The US has bought the entire supply of Remdesivir 🤣 - a drug that does not change mortality, but may shorten the disease by a day, or so. This cost billions. I'm sorry, but I must LOL. They can park it next to the Hydroxychloroquine stockpile. Boy did Gilead squeak by not having that useless pile of crap expire.
( Oh, The hilariousness of trying to grab everything for yourself only to discover that you have ALL the glass beads, glitter and feathers! And now, you are broke.)

We can get better results from the non-prescription drugstore:

And it won't cost 3000$ per 5 day course.

The US buying the entire supply of Remdesivir whist utterly pointless is an extremely selfish thing to do. Apart from dying inexplicably well from this virus, the UK has excelled by identifying for the world two treatments that actually work.

The UK has banned exports of the drugs we have identified but told everyone about them. I sort of hope if a UK vaccine is the first to work the US is last to get it after that 'Remdesivir' move. I don't want anyone to suffer though. Such a move....
 
Sure, let them have their parties. Make them sign a waiver that states they accept responsibility for their actions and that they understand no treatment will be given.

I feel the same way about drug gangs and football hooligans. You want to duke it out? Sure.
Let them use a football stadium, lock them in , turn the cameras on (pay per view, money goes to worthy cause). When it’s all over, let those that can walk out do so, no treatment, the rest? Scrape them up and stick them in a landfill.

Evolution isn’t getting rid of enough morons and we’re constantly stepping in to make sure it doesn’t. Reverse that trend.
I do think natural selection is working just fine, if a bit too slowly.
https://twitter.com/THEHermanCain?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1278444266881273856%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Fherman-cain-covid-19-coronavirus-trump_n_5efe1df1c5b6ca97091b131e
Herman Cain Hospitalized For COVID-19 Hours After Condemning Masks
If you condemn masks, why should you turn up in hospital after you get sick because you didn't wear one, and demand an oxygen mask?
For the irony? 🙄

And let's have some more pretend ignorance:
Cain’s positive June 29 test came just over a week after he appeared at Donald Trump’s indoor campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Cain’s team said in a statement they are unsure how or where he contracted the virus.
Rut-Ro. Not a clue. 🤷‍♂️ Let's ask Velma, Scoob.

(Also, Cain has a team? Wut? )
Who's on this team? Well it turns out it's the "well-known epidemiologist" Lisa Lisa, from Cult Jam. 🤩🤩😍😘

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Iq8JmmfxY


You can't make it up. Quick, men, the Remdesivir!

I sort of hope if a UK vaccine is the first to work the US is last to get it after that 'Remdesivir' move. I don't want anyone to suffer though. Such a move....
Don't worry. You can't lose. They being run by Minions without a Criminal Mastermind.
 
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It is the constant worry about the economy that is doing my head in. They seem perfectly happy that some people will die because the economy has to be helped. The economy is supposed to be a tool to improve people’s lives, not some God in the sky you make sacrifices to.
It is a balancing act. All the things we take for granted depend on the economy; A political party that is primarily financially conservative (the Tories) are doing things the hard left would have considered a push, paying people a full wage to sit at home.

If the economy is destroyed then we can't pay for anyone to do anything, no money for NHS staff, no money for Key Workers, no money for you to pay for your broadband; moaning about people that care about the economy.
 
The US buying the entire supply of Remdesivir whist utterly pointless is an extremely selfish thing to do. Apart from dying inexplicably well from this virus, the UK has excelled by identifying for the world two treatments that actually work.

The UK has banned exports of the drugs we have identified but told everyone about them. I sort of hope if a UK vaccine is the first to work the US is last to get it after that 'Remdesivir' move. I don't want anyone to suffer though. Such a move....
If a vaccine is found, whatever the country, this vaccine should be a common good, a good for the humanity.

🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠 😷
 
It is a balancing act. All the things we take for granted depend on the economy; A political party that is primarily financially conservative (the Tories) are doing things the hard left would have considered a push, paying people a full wage to sit at home.

If the economy is destroyed then we can't pay for anyone to do anything, no money for NHS staff, no money for Key Workers, no money for you to pay for your broadband; moaning about people that care about the economy.
Just think about the economy for a minute, this vital thing we have constructed, that not only do our lives depend on but we're willing to sacrifice some to keep it going. Be that war (good for the economy), making people redundant to increase shareholder dividends (good for the economy) to taking risks by relaxing social distancing so people can go back to work (vital for the economy). The economy that we depend on, that we're willing to sacrifice for, is all about confidence. Confidence is good, the economy is up. Confidence is low, economy is down. This vital organ to our survival is based on an feeling. In the 21st century, the best idea we have is that. It would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous and pathetic.

We need a better idea. Don't ask me what that is but I'll suggest one that is based on something more solid than a feeling. At some point, and we just had a tiny, tiny glimpse of it, money is not going to matter. We will not be able to buy our way out of the troubles we are facing. Money is like a religion, people are willing to do anything in its name. It has profits instead of prophets. And the only reason money works is that you have to have faith in it. Money is made up. They print it. It only works because you believe in it, This is no way to run a society. Again, I'm not clever enough to come up with an alternative but I'm smart enough to know this system isn't sustainable. In the last 10 years, each year, I've paid more money in tax in the UK than Facebook did. The economy is wildly out of shape. It does't need help or saving, it wants burning down and a new model built,

Keep your left and right, in the end they're all the same. They promise you everything, give you nothing and take it away before you get it.
 
The US buying the entire supply of Remdesivir whist utterly pointless is an extremely selfish thing to do.
Kleptocratic oligarchy at work.

Company spends 8 million dollars lobbying former industry insiders for favorable legislation, gains 80 million in US tax dollars to develop the drug, sells drug to government for hundreds of millions, while many involved in the whole process make a killing on their shares.

Tax payers unfortunate enough to develop severe COVID-19 get the privilege of spending thousands on a price gouged treatment they've already paid for twice before, so they can either die at almost the same rate or recover a few days sooner.

If you're not a US resident, you should be counting your blessings that the government extorting you has to find something better to blow your money on.
 
You just had to take it too far and go into the realms of fantasy :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
On April 12, 1955, the day the Salk vaccine was declared “safe, effective and potent,” legendary CBS newsman Edward R. Morrow interviewed its creator and asked who owned the patent. “Well, the people, I would say,” said Salk in light of the millions of charitable donations raised by the March of Dimes that funded the vaccine’s research and field testing. “There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?” Lawyers for the foundation had investigated the possibility of patenting the vaccine but did not pursue it, in part because of Salk’s reluctance.
History.
Not Fantasy.

If you're not a US resident, you should be counting your blessings that the government extorting you has to find something better to blow your money on.
Our guys just pocket the money directly. It's better than Remdesivir, since somebody actually benefits. There is a potential remedy for that ugly drug situation here:
Expectation that the present Powers-that-Be actually do this are low. The Gilead fix has been in for some time. There's likely kickbacks to be found, if anybody investigates, but there's too much going on for it to matter.
 
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Just think about the economy for a minute, this vital thing we have constructed, that not only do our lives depend on but we're willing to sacrifice some to keep it going. Be that war (good for the economy), making people redundant to increase shareholder dividends (good for the economy) to taking risks by relaxing social distancing so people can go back to work (vital for the economy). The economy that we depend on, that we're willing to sacrifice for, is all about confidence. Confidence is good, the economy is up. Confidence is low, economy is down. This vital organ to our survival is based on an feeling. In the 21st century, the best idea we have is that. It would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous and pathetic.

We need a better idea. Don't ask me what that is but I'll suggest one that is based on something more solid than a feeling. At some point, and we just had a tiny, tiny glimpse of it, money is not going to matter. We will not be able to buy our way out of the troubles we are facing. Money is like a religion, people are willing to do anything in its name. It has profits instead of prophets. And the only reason money works is that you have to have faith in it. Money is made up. They print it. It only works because you believe in it, This is no way to run a society. Again, I'm not clever enough to come up with an alternative but I'm smart enough to know this system isn't sustainable. In the last 10 years, each year, I've paid more money in tax in the UK than Facebook did. The economy is wildly out of shape. It does't need help or saving, it wants burning down and a new model built,

Keep your left and right, in the end they're all the same. They promise you everything, give you nothing and take it away before you get it.
Money is the root of all evil (well actually desire for power is...money gives it)
 
Money is the root of all evil (well actually desire for power is...money gives it)
It's complex. For tens of thousands of years it was a good idea in an evolutionary sense, to hoard resources and deny others those resources. It secured the passing of your genes to the next generation and the survival of your offspring. We are all descended from the best hoarders and protectors of resources.
As our numbers grew and societies developed, the cost of our inherited instincts started to outweigh the advantages. On a larger scale the societies that cooperated better (by force or free will) were successful and spread. As a collective, the recipe for total success is Thargoid level corporation.
That doesn't work well, because the conflict with our instincts gets to large. We become miserable and inefficient.

Modern society is all about balancing these paradoxes. They are not ideal systems and will probably newer be, but they do evolve. At times this evolution takes painful detours into bat systems that are temporarily successful. The better systems will often have bad aspect that can prevail, because of the overall success.

Those that are able to shy away from dogma and ideologies and look at what actually works will hopefully come out on top, but we never know.
 
The lockdown in England will be further relaxed with the reopening of pubs tomorrow. The pubs will be allowed to open from 6am and the government in particular Boris says he hopes people will be sensible.
 
"Hopes people will be sensible". Might as well hope for the sun to not shine. They should just start serving the virus in pubs.

As well as we we're doing in Australia, it was despite the morons. One genius, who felt sick enough to get tested, took a train to another state. With the lockdown happening in the state that screwed up, people are now being smuggled out. People are truly too stupid to live.
 
The lockdown in England will be further relaxed with the reopening of pubs tomorrow. The pubs will be allowed to open from 6am and the government in particular Boris says he hopes people will be sensible.
Britons, the English in particular, are well known to be sensible around alcohol. You need only see the many fine ambassadors we sent on to the continent to support our various football teams.
 
"Hopes people will be sensible". Might as well hope for the sun to not shine. They should just start serving the virus in pubs.

As well as we we're doing in Australia, it was despite the morons. One genius, who felt sick enough to get tested, took a train to another state. With the lockdown happening in the state that screwed up, people are now being smuggled out. People are truly too stupid to live.
We're one of the Border States in the US Civil War, so, you can imagine how well that is working out...also, being a major transport nexus does not help. :(
 
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