G5 Manufactured Materials Still Awkward As Ever

As a try to solve this whole issue, I suggest "something completely new":

G5 mats should be sold, the price depends on supply and demand in realtime. Then everybody schould get all his CIF, MEF, PI, IS etc. in no time.
How is that? No more grind necessary. 🤷‍♀️

Oh I forgot to mention: Base-prices are starting at 250.000.000 Cr/Unit.:sneaky:
 
As a try to solve this whole issue, I suggest "something completely new":

G5 mats should be sold, the price depends on supply and demand in realtime. Then everybody schould get all his CIF, MEF, PI, IS etc. in no time.
How is that? No more grind necessary. 🤷‍♀️

Oh I forgot to mention: Base-prices are starting at 250.000.000 Cr/Unit.:sneaky:
Phew you had me worried for a moment there ;)

Sad thing is some would be willing to pay that amount, then of course they would complain after the purchase lol
 
As a try to solve this whole issue, I suggest "something completely new":

G5 mats should be sold, the price depends on supply and demand in realtime. Then everybody schould get all his CIF, MEF, PI, IS etc. in no time.
How is that? No more grind necessary. 🤷‍♀️

Oh I forgot to mention: Base-prices are starting at 250.000.000 Cr/Unit.:sneaky:
Well mining at 250m credits per hour, means I could afford one every hour, which is still more than I find actually looking. 🙄
 
Well mining at 250m credits per hour, means I could afford one every hour, which is still more than I find actually looking. 🙄
Or visiting the frakking Mats-Trader for God's sake...Geeez. It only takes 5 minutes. You said you're fully stocked up with almost every other G5. I still don't get behind your argument. (Maybe it's because it's too one-dimensional). 💆‍♀️

But you need, what did you say? 54 units? That would count as 54h mining the crap out of 'roids. Here "The Grind" starts again, and I'm pretty sure you will then complain about, how tedious it is to mine, just to get your credits.

And you forgot something VERY important. 250M is only the base-pricing. Inflates pretty fast to...what?...1.5B - 2B after you bought 5 units?
 
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Well mining at 250m credits per hour, means I could afford one every hour, which is still more than I find actually looking. 🙄
Ah you haven't learned the FD secret yet have you. Ever wonder why the only G5 mats you find are the ones you either have enough of or just don't need? See, FD have a hidden sub-program, it listens to what you mutter and curse about and acts accordingly. So if you are after Pharmaceutical Isolators, the game will only give you Improvised Components, even if you have a hold full of them already. The way to beat the system is to declare, VERY LOUDLY, the exact opposite of what you want. For example, I can be in Federation space, and will say quite clearly and very loudly "I'm am after Imperial Shielding", knowing the game will now do it's best to give me everything but Imp Shielding.

Yep you have to be cunning to win here ;)
 
Or visiting the frakking Mats-Trader for God's sake...Geeez. It only takes 5 minutes. You said you're fully stocked up with almost every other G5. I still don't get behind your argument. (Maybe it's because it's too one-dimensional). 💆‍♀️
I do have a few G5s stocked fully, but I need those for other upgrades.
The only one I don't need, Imperial Shielding, is the only one that's empty. Lol

I don't actually need that many PI's, so I might just trade a few (once I've checked how many of the others I do need), but I need a lot of Military Supercapacitors, and Improvised Components, I'd have to trade everything just to get a bit of what I need. 🙄
 
I do have a few G5s stocked fully, but I need those for other upgrades.
The only one I don't need, Imperial Shielding, is the only one that's empty. Lol

I don't actually need that many PI's, so I might just trade a few (once I've checked how many of the others I do need), but I need a lot of Military Supercapacitors, and Improvised Components, I'd have to trade everything just to get a bit of what I need. 🙄
That's exactly what the Mats-Traders are for. To stock up the final bits you need and to relief you from grinding.
 
That's exactly what the Mats-Traders are for. To stock up the final bits you need and to relief you from grinding.
That's what I do already. If I need just a couple of bits here and there, I won't bother looking, I'll trade.

What I won't do is trade 200~ of two separate "common" G5s to get 32~ of the "rare" ones, then still need those G5s I'd just traded, so now not only do I need another load of the "common" G5s again, I probably still need more of the "rare" one too.

Or, the game could actually spawn the materials, in the places they state in the description. Lol

If the description just said "doesn't exist", I'd probably complain less. Lol
 
That's what I do already. If I need just a couple of bits here and there, I won't bother looking, I'll trade.

What I won't do is trade 200~ of two separate "common" G5s to get 32~ of the "rare" ones, then still need those G5s I'd just traded, so now not only do I need another load of the "common" G5s again, I probably still need more of the "rare" one too.

Or, the game could actually spawn the materials, in the places they state in the description. Lol

If the description just said "doesn't exist", I'd probably complain less. Lol
Well, I really don't want to nitpick, but where ingame or in other "official pubilcations" is a list that explains where to find what in detail? That would be a whole new side FDev offers us. But, yeah...you're reffering to Inara. Quite a very great 3rd.-party tool, but nevertheless also quite "misleading", so "No responsibilities taken for the correctness of the data".
If you're reffering to the ingame descriptions provided for the mats, they are "unprecise" to stay polite in here. Inara then, is the better source, for gri...uhm...hunting down mats. ;)
 
Well, I really don't want to nitpick, but where ingame or in other "official pubilcations" is a list that explains where to find what in detail? That would be a whole new side FDev offers us. But, yeah...you're reffering to Inara. Quite a very great 3rd.-party tool, but nevertheless also quite "misleading", so "No responsibilities taken for the correctness of the data".
If you're reffering to the ingame descriptions provided for the mats, they are "unprecise" to stay polite in here. Inara then, is the better source, for gri...uhm...hunting down mats. ;)
"Specialist component developed during times of outbreak. Known to be salvaged from signal sources."

That's the in-game description. And it's perfectly accurate.
Pharmaceutical Isolators are found in signal sources, in outbreak systems.

But only if you pass the 4-5 layers of RNG. Lol
 
FD love their obscure mechanics. They are so obscure you don't even know if it's a bug, you're doing it wrong or working as intended just with incredibly low likelihood of winning three lotteries in sequence to find instance, right time of day, whether the cat feels like it and the material you want actually spawning.
 
HGE Looping
HGE Looping is a time-efficient method of grinding Grade 5 Manufactured materials. Ideally you will want to be using a ship with at least 5 collector limpets and a good turn rate in supercruise.

  1. Start by finding a HGE that contains the desired materials which has longer than 20 minutes on the decay timer.
  2. Drop into this HGE and collect the contents with your collector limpets.
  3. Exit the game to desktop and restart via the launcher.
  4. Join the same mode you were in originally and jump to supercruise.
  5. Upon transitioning to supercruise, immediately set throttle to 0% and open the left panel.
  6. The nearest Unknown Signal Source should be a few hundred km away and is the same HGE you dropped into the first time.
  7. Drop in, collect the contents and repeat until material storage is full or the HGE times out.
 
"Specialist component developed during times of outbreak. Known to be salvaged from signal sources."

That's the in-game description. And it's perfectly accurate.
Pharmaceutical Isolators are found in signal sources, in outbreak systems.

But only if you pass the 4-5 layers of RNG. Lol
Okay then...nitpicking engaged:
1. signal sources...fine...High graded? Degraded? Encoded? (we only know out of Inara that they are in HGE's)
2. Outbreaks...also fine...but in systems of wich alignement? Imps? Feds? Indis? (we know from Inara, at Indis)
2.5 Also they're not only found in Outbreaks, but also in Booms, (civil)-wars and unrest. ( but we only know bout THAT from Inara)

/nitpicking disengaged
 
HGE Looping
HGE Looping is a time-efficient method of grinding Grade 5 Manufactured materials. Ideally you will want to be using a ship with at least 5 collector limpets and a good turn rate in supercruise.

  1. Start by finding a HGE that contains the desired materials which has longer than 20 minutes on the decay timer.
  2. Drop into this HGE and collect the contents with your collector limpets.
  3. Exit the game to desktop and restart via the launcher.
  4. Join the same mode you were in originally and jump to supercruise.
  5. Upon transitioning to supercruise, immediately set throttle to 0% and open the left panel.
  6. The nearest Unknown Signal Source should be a few hundred km away and is the same HGE you dropped into the first time.
  7. Drop in, collect the contents and repeat until material storage is full or the HGE times out.
Too meta for me. I actually play games. I don't exit them to play them. I know people are desperate to resort to such crap, but I rather wouldn't. That's not playing a game. That's gaming a game.
 
That's exactly what the Mats-Traders are for. To stock up the final bits you need and to relief you from grinding.
Personally I find the mat trader is 'cheating' in my game, its a too easy solution to people complaining about 'grinding', I prefer to play the game and find the mats aI need and upgrade organically....I cant, I haver to visit the trader and that's the problem. I don't find any part of the game a 'grind' except swopping modules around, Ill happily fly an all E rated T9 until I accidentally dock at a station with a better one even D or C and Ill upgrade to that until I get to one with an A. I rarely use EDSM for ship equipment.

Well, I really don't want to nitpick, but where ingame or in other "official pubilcations" is a list that explains where to find what in detail? That would be a whole new side FDev offers us. But, yeah...you're reffering to Inara. Quite a very great 3rd.-party tool, but nevertheless also quite "misleading", so "No responsibilities taken for the correctness of the data".
If you're reffering to the ingame descriptions provided for the mats, they are "unprecise" to stay polite in here. Inara then, is the better source, for gri...uhm...hunting down mats. ;)
The descriptions are pretty damn accurate for every single Mat including all G5s with the exception of one of them. Solely using them I can focus where I need to go rather than using an off site internet page that interrupts my gameplay and my immersion. Inara isn't advertised in-game as the source of the correct information is it? The game descriptions are supposed to be valid aren't they? But you'd still rather try and demean the person pointing that out than have the problem actually fixed?

This reminds me of buying 'stickers' in packs and I think Pokémon is the same, theres only a small number of certain cards and they become the rarest. Not all G5 mats are at the same rarity level, one in particular seems 99.9% not to drop, nothing at all do with the ratio of G5 drops in general which is better than fine as you can waste them at mats traders to get the one mat that you can never find, not to top-up the few you need to finish but all of them to even start. If you cant understand that this is the point then theres not much point repeating it ad finitum.
 
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