Ah excellent - I was just going to post asking if the trade routes appear on the galmapThe first thing that i noticed though was the establishment of a trade route brought on missions. Im not sure of how many to establish it but i think its around 10. When the galaxy map marks it as trade between the two systems....the missions pop up.
Yes, they start to appear quite quickly in response to trade activity, without waiting for the Tick or any state changes. Their number increasing as the mission board slowly turns over while trading continues. And as noted above, they also start to decay back to the basic Murder & Mayhem (I like that phrase, very fitting) missions quickly too.Interesting - do the missions change without the BGS state changing
Could be. I haven't looked in to where that information comes from.From loose memory, i swear i've seen 2 stations of the same economy, in the same system, with different commodities as their exports, this might be a clue on seen production differences. if you haven't looked at this already.
Demand, yes. Missions ... there's some dependency on states but it's a lot more subtle.Also would both demand and mission generation be 100% caused by active states? The missions seem to be attributed to these when there is one.. in the past i've seen variation too that could have been related to this but not in the dumb and dumber (or server efficiency) templates world.
Could be. I haven't looked in to where that information comes from.
Sorry, no, you were clear the first time - I meant that I hadn't looked into what determined which cargoes were shown in that list beyond the very obvious "they're from that economy"So sorry, forgot the main point. Its in the details section of the system map with the station in focus.
Can you provide clarification on that position... specifically, are you saying if there is not a "trade route" on the map, then there are no missions available for that commodity?The first thing that i noticed though was the establishment of a trade route brought on missions. Im not sure of how many to establish it but i think its around 10. When the galaxy map marks it as trade between the two systems....the missions pop up.
No, a trade route on the map doesnt mean there are zero trades happening. It does show up however after running some for a bit. The number of missions did pick up though.Can you provide clarification on that position... specifically, are you saying if there is not a "trade route" on the map, then there are no missions available for that commodity?
Simply because, if that's the case, I can produce loads of counterexamples against that, so I don't think it has anything to do with trade routes (In addition, there's plenty of trade routes for which there's almost never missions)
Case example 1: Just found a 180t delivery of silver from an extraction economy, to a terraforming economy, where no such trade route exists.
Case example 2: Wing delivery of ~1800t Gallite to an Industrial/Refinery, where no such route exists.
Case example 3: Delivery of Gallite to Refinery economy, where no such route exists.
Now, these commodities are generally considered imports/exports for their market types, but fact remains there's no trade route, commander or commercial, on the galaxy map, for those destinations.
EDIT: Ugh, sorry, quoting an old post, but I know others seem to consider this a thing.
I don't think so - at least, not where the security level change is caused by a temporary state.as security levels can affect prices - do they also affect supply and demand if changed?
Yes, it should be - https://cdb.sotl.org.uk/specialisation will give approximate ranges, relative to HFuel, for supply/demand so with that and the state tables you should be able to estimate the black market demand levels and prices.@Ian D: - would it therefore be possible to guesstimate demand levels of illegal goods? And prices?
along those lines:
- hydrogen fuel level gives market size
- price of e.g. a legal drug liquor gives price modifiers
- = "narcotics have a demand of xyz and will sell for xyz"?
so the idea would be:Yes, it should be - https://cdb.sotl.org.uk/specialisation will give approximate ranges, relative to HFuel, for supply/demand so with that and the state tables you should be able to estimate the black market demand levels and prices.
(I would assume that the black market price curve as demand is met therefore also behaves the same as the main market one for the same commodity, if you were somehow dealing with a heavily-traded illegal good)
Yes, that should be about right.so the idea would be:
look up median for hydrogen fuel supply: 42,5
look up median for narcotics demand: 0,25
42,5/0,25 = 100
look up hydrogen supply at station, divide by 100 = approx narcotics demand?